Comments on: ActionScript 3 as a Server-Side Language http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/ Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:33:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Quince http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-64102 Quince Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:28:38 +0000 http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-64102 The reason there is code(ASP, PHP, Java, .NET) between Flash and the DB is security. Flash is loaded client-side the other languages are server-side protecting your DB. I have already wrote two extensions one uses PHP for MySQL, the other uses ASP for MS SQL or .mdb. Creates your PHP or ASP depending on which extension you choose. The flash extension has built in classes and writes the FLash AS2 or AS3 for you insid Flash. I have made everything iterchangable between ASP and PHP classes so by changing the import from ...php.as2.* (or...php.as3) to ...asp.as2. To change from as2 to as3 you must also change your publish setting from as2 to as3. finally you need to change the loadVars variable type in the return function to URLVariables. That's it! All you have to do is set the variables for your query and what you want flash to do with the data on the return function. It does the insert, update, select and delete queries. You can also you where like what and sortby as well as joins unions and so on. You can learn more about it at http://peakstudios.com. Hope this helps. Thanks! Quince The reason there is code(ASP, PHP, Java, .NET) between Flash and the DB is security. Flash is loaded client-side the other languages are server-side protecting your DB.

I have already wrote two extensions one uses PHP for MySQL, the other uses ASP for MS SQL or .mdb.
Creates your PHP or ASP depending on which extension you choose.

The flash extension has built in classes and writes the FLash AS2 or AS3 for you insid Flash. I have made everything iterchangable between ASP and PHP classes so by changing the import from …php.as2.* (or…php.as3) to …asp.as2. To change from as2 to as3 you must also change your publish setting from as2 to as3. finally you need to change the loadVars variable type in the return function to URLVariables. That’s it!

All you have to do is set the variables for your query and what you want flash to do with the data on the return function.

It does the insert, update, select and delete queries.
You can also you where like what and sortby as well as joins unions and so on.

You can learn more about it at http://peakstudios.com.

Hope this helps.
Thanks!
Quince

]]> By: Victor Dramba http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-62517 Victor Dramba Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:49:09 +0000 http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-62517 take a look at this speed comparison http://www.victordramba.com/?p=16 the Tamarin based AVM is <b>flash</b> fast! it beats PHP by far so, why don't we start a open source project pick a cute name all software is there, the AS3 (abc) compiler is open-source too (it's included in Tamarin) AND WRITE IT OURSELVES! sooner the better! who's in? write me at victor.dramba at gmail.com take a look at this speed comparison http://www.victordramba.com/?p=16

the Tamarin based AVM is flash fast!
it beats PHP by far

so, why don’t we start a open source project
pick a cute name
all software is there, the AS3 (abc) compiler is open-source too (it’s included in Tamarin)

AND WRITE IT OURSELVES!
sooner the better!

who’s in?

write me at victor.dramba at gmail.com

]]> By: Rostislav Siryk http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-11912 Rostislav Siryk Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:24:36 +0000 http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-11912 I often catch myself with the same thoughts: I want to AS everythihg. Actually, now we have ActionScript as the web client language (Flash Player) and desktop too (AIR). So why not to have the server variant too? At least, as the some kind macro language. I often catch myself with the same thoughts: I want to AS everythihg. Actually, now we have ActionScript as the web client language (Flash Player) and desktop too (AIR). So why not to have the server variant too?

At least, as the some kind macro language.

]]> By: zwetan http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10644 zwetan Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:13:49 +0000 http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10644 technically AS3 on the server-side is possible it not have been done yet and it requires a lot of work but definitively possible it would require that: - take the tamarin code base - make an apache module in C++ based on tamarin - add a hell lot to the C++ base to have a somewhat useable server side API but before being able to do that we have to wait for an open source ASC (ActionScript Compiler) technically AS3 on the server-side is possible

it not have been done yet
and it requires a lot of work
but definitively possible

it would require that:
- take the tamarin code base
- make an apache module in C++ based on tamarin
- add a hell lot to the C++ base to have a somewhat useable server side API

but before being able to do that we have to wait
for an open source ASC (ActionScript Compiler)

]]> By: Nghia Nguyen http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10290 Nghia Nguyen Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:20:45 +0000 http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10290 whats better actionscript serverside or php???? nghia whats better actionscript serverside or php????

nghia

]]> By: Campbell http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10158 Campbell Thu, 26 Jul 2007 01:48:16 +0000 http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10158 Micro$oft have a DLR for ruby, python etc, Im guessing writing the parser for AS3 wouldnt be too hard, still in beta (isnt everything these days) though. Micro$oft have a DLR for ruby, python etc, Im guessing writing the parser for AS3 wouldnt be too hard, still in beta (isnt everything these days) though.

]]> By: Chris Dawes http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10156 Chris Dawes Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:10:24 +0000 http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10156 Actionscript server-side is called 'Coldfusion script'. :-) Smith is open source. Go for gold! Actionscript server-side is called ‘Coldfusion script’. :-) Smith is open source. Go for gold!

]]> By: jonnymac http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10151 jonnymac Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:14:09 +0000 http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10151 Theo - C# is close, but you hit the nail on the head: it is not open source. I have always been pretty hesitant to choose a platform that is controlled by one party who can make significant changes without consulting the developers. With AS3 being open source, it would be fairly simple to take the language as a starting point for a server-side ECMAScript 4 implementation. Benny - The shared hosting issue is exactly why I was suggesting it be combined with Coldfusion, because there is already a nice install base for the server. It is by no means at the level of PHP/ASP/ASP.NET, but you can at least find shared hosting for Coldfusion. So, I'm not really sure what I would suggest in terms of getting the install base to a level that will really allow the language to take off and become popular. All those languages you mention have been available for years, so there would be a lot of catching up to do. One thought, however, is that Ruby on Rails has become fairly popular over the past year seeing a significant gain in install base, including popular shared hosting providers such as Dreamhost. I think this goes to show you that if you put out an effort to make sure something is secure, there is a demand and it is fairly easy to install, hosting providers will offer it. Theo - C# is close, but you hit the nail on the head: it is not open source. I have always been pretty hesitant to choose a platform that is controlled by one party who can make significant changes without consulting the developers. With AS3 being open source, it would be fairly simple to take the language as a starting point for a server-side ECMAScript 4 implementation.

Benny - The shared hosting issue is exactly why I was suggesting it be combined with Coldfusion, because there is already a nice install base for the server. It is by no means at the level of PHP/ASP/ASP.NET, but you can at least find shared hosting for Coldfusion.

So, I’m not really sure what I would suggest in terms of getting the install base to a level that will really allow the language to take off and become popular. All those languages you mention have been available for years, so there would be a lot of catching up to do.

One thought, however, is that Ruby on Rails has become fairly popular over the past year seeing a significant gain in install base, including popular shared hosting providers such as Dreamhost. I think this goes to show you that if you put out an effort to make sure something is secure, there is a demand and it is fairly easy to install, hosting providers will offer it.

]]> By: Benny http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10149 Benny Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:51:59 +0000 http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10149 Like I also commented on the other blog item you mentioned, I would applaud an AS3 server side solution. There is ofcours already HAXE and it would be just what we wanted but unfortunately most of my customers are setup with shared hosting solutions (either on Linux/Apache or Windows/IIS) and in such a setting HAXE is no option. So if such a solution would run in a shared hosting environment, for example if it could compile to a (fast)CGI binary or maybe code in AS3 and then compile to PHP/ASP/ASP.NET then that would be a very welcom solution. Like I also commented on the other blog item you mentioned, I would applaud an AS3 server side solution. There is ofcours already HAXE and it would be just what we wanted but unfortunately most of my customers are setup with shared hosting solutions (either on Linux/Apache or Windows/IIS) and in such a setting HAXE is no option. So if such a solution would run in a shared hosting environment, for example if it could compile to a (fast)CGI binary or maybe code in AS3 and then compile to PHP/ASP/ASP.NET then that would be a very welcom solution.

]]> By: Theo http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10142 Theo Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:21:53 +0000 http://www.jonnymac.com/blog/2007/07/25/actionscript-3-as-a-server-side-language/#comment-10142 Oh, and Netscape once had a server side environment based on JavaScript once upon a time. Oh, and Netscape once had a server side environment based on JavaScript once upon a time.

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